Volume 91, No.2, March-April 2005

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The Doctor and his Boswell: Farmer, left, and biographer Kidder
The Doctor and his Boswell: Farmer, left, and biographer Kidder
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During fall semester, Duke Magazine and the Office of Student Affairs sponsored the fourth Duke Magazine Campus Forum, featuring a public conversation with Paul Farmer and Tracy Kidder. Farmer '82 is a physician, infectious-disease specialist, and the subject of Kidder's book Mountains Beyond Mountains, which was the summer reading assignment for the Class of 2008.

Farmer has won Duke's Humanitarian Award, a MacArthur Foundation "genius award," and the Heinz Foundation Award. The nonprofit organization he co-founded, Partners In Health, which operates in Haiti, Peru, Russia, Cuba, and Mexico, has changed international health practices, proving the efficacy of delivering modern medicine in resource-poor settings and advocating for access to decent health care as a basic right of the world's poorest and most marginalized people.

Kidder has won the Pulitzer Prize, the National Book Award, and the Robert F. Kennedy Award. Besides Mountains Beyond Mountains, he is the author of The Soul of a New Machine, House, Among Schoolchildren, Old Friends, and Home Town.

The following is an edited version of their conversation, which took place in a packed Page Auditorium on September 29, 2004. The event was the culmination of a four-day campus visit, during which Farmer met with first-year medical students and took part in discussions on global health with campus leaders, including Duke Medical Center's new chancellor, Victor Dzau. Kidder sat in on a journalism class and gave a reading in the Rare Book Room in Perkins Library.

On Partners In Health

kidder: In the time I spent on the road with Paul, I was introduced to more reasons for despair than I'd ever imagined. The problems in places like Haiti and urban slums of Latin America and prisons in Siberia are truly horrifying. But, traveling with him was not just the most exhausting experience of my life, it was also the most exhilarating and the most hopeful.

I had become accustomed to skipping over stories about the AIDS pandemic, for instance, in the newspaper. It seemed too big, too complicated, too expensive a problem ever to be solved. And here was this guy and this group of people, Partners In Health, saying, "No, it's not too big. It's not too expensive. It's not too complicated. And here's the proof." A skeptical person like me looks into the statistics. And this was a group that hadn't lost a single patient to an uncomplicated case of tuberculosis in--I think it was twelve years at that time.

The other side of that, of course, is that the message was daunting. Because if, in fact, we have all the tools and the money to take on AIDS and TB throughout the world--at the moment [Partners In Health] is treating AIDS patients in Haiti, one of the most difficult settings you can imagine, for, I believe, around $20 a year per AIDS patient--then it can be done everywhere. And so, we're left with a choice--a choice about the kind of world we want to live in, it seems to me. And I, frankly, don't want to live in a world in which we let mass extinctions occur.

On "his" book

farmer: I can't tell you how many people have said to me, "Oh, I just love your book." And I think, "Oh, you mean Uses of Haiti?" I know they never mean that. They always mean his book, which is kind of annoying. [Laughter]

Okay, I won't be bitter, because, fortunately, I have some skills that he does not. And some of them I acquired right here--a lot of them.

Since many of you are probably freshmen, I know that you were forced to read this book. Which, actually, I also know is a farce. I know most of you didn't read it. Because even though you were [told] to, you just didn't. That's called the resistance--the weapons of the weak.

So, I don't imagine that you've all read this book written by Tracy. And I know that you've not read my [six] books, because I see the sales figures. But, my mother has read my books, and she is of the opinion that my books are as good as or better than Tracy's book.

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